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Bobby Rio Interview – Conversation Escalation: Make Small Talk Sexy

Can you get a woman like this by your conversations alone- Bobby Rio thinks so.

Q uestions about Common Conversation Mistakes, How to Avoid Awkward Silences, and Some Techniques to Improve Your Flirting

Since the topic of the program is creating more fun, flirtatious, and “sexual” conversations with women- Here are some tips out of him for improving your conversation skills and creating attraction in women.

1. What are some of the major mistakes guys make in their conversations?

It’s funny…because when you finally figure this out- you’ll look back and see that there were just a handful of tweaks you needed to make… and these tweaks vary from guy to guy.

Some guys spend too much time trying to appear “cool” to a woman- and wind up coming across as stiff and boring. For these guys, they need to learn how to inject some fun and playfulness into their conversations.

Some guys tend to get stuck at a “friendly” level. These guys need to learn how to spot when there is “too much” rapport happening.

Attraction is a balancing act between “tension” and “comfort.”

And a lot of the guys who get stuck at a friendly level are so afraid of the “tension” that they spend way too much time building rapport thinking it will make the woman like them. – And it will… as a FRIEND.

Some guys have no clue what to say to a woman.

These guys need to learn how to spot the hooks a woman is giving him.

Every time a woman opens her mouth and says something it should be triggering three or four things you can say back.

The problem a lot of these guys face (and I suffered this for YEARS) is that they spend too much time in their own head trying to think of what to say next. A woman will give you all the material you need.

You’ve just got to learn to spot it.

But the biggest mistake most men are making is that there conversation are one dimensional and flat.

This is because they don’t have enough “weapons” in their arsenal.

Maybe they are comfortable at telling stories… so that’s all they do. Or maybe they spend the entire time asking questions. Or maybe they are funny – so they rely too much on humor.

The fact is, you need to always have about five techniques you “whip out” to keep the conversation flowing and EXCITING.

A conversation should be like a roller-coaster– where the woman doesn’t know what twist and turn will come next.

2. How can a guy avoid awkward silences and “running out of things to say?”

Ah… my biggest fear.

For me, I was more afraid of the awkwardness of having nothing left to say- than I ever was of rejection.

In fact, if a woman openly rejected me- I could take it. What I couldn’t take was standing there not knowing if I should keep talking to her, or give up. I hated thinking the woman was just being polite and really wished I would leave.

But here is thing…

The easiest way to completely eliminate awkwardness is to acknowledge it in a humorous way.

By calling out the “elephant in the room” and saying what you’re both thinking… it demonstrates that you are socially intelligent. And social intelligence is EXTREMELY attractive to a woman.

It’s sort of like if you’ve ever had a girl turn her cheek when you went for the kiss. The worse thing to do is pretend it didn’t happen. Because the both of you know you tried to kiss her- so you’re not fooling anyone by acting “cool” about it.

Just say (in a mocking ‘announcer type’ voice) “And she slips him the cheek”. This sort of humorous response will put you both back at ease.

Women fear awkwardness even more than men do… so by showing a woman you have enough social intelligence not to let things get awkward… you become a lot more attractive in her eyes.

3. What are some of the important concepts and techniques that you cover in: Conversation Escalation Make Small Talk Sexy

Well, my goal with this program is to show you how to get your mind to explode with things to talk about, that continues to flow so that you feel more confident, natural, and relaxed- when standing in front of a beautiful woman.

Now, in order to get you to that point, you’re going to have to learn a few things. And these are probably things you’ve never heard before…because most of the “gurus” like to avoid the subject of “small talk.”

In this program we are going to show you how to “steer” a conversation along.

How to spot the “hooks” a woman is giving you.

You’ll learn how to “bait” a woman into asking you about things you want to be talking about.

You’re also going to learn how inject “sexuality” into a conversation. Because ultimately- you can have an hour long amazing conversation with a woman- but if you don’t get her thinking about you in a “sexual” way- it will be impossible to ever kiss her.

Now there are a ton of techniques you’re going to learn that almost force you to become a more attractive talker… but more important than the techniques, I’m going to teach you a “specific” practice routine- so that this new way of communicating comes natural to you- and you remember to use the information when it counts- when you’re talking to a woman.

The one thing I want to leave you with is: No matter how intimidated you are by the thought of becoming a “smooth talker”… you really are a lot closer than you think.

Once you make a handful of “tweaks” you’ll find that you actually enjoy talking to women- and will begin to see how easy it is to create attraction.

4. Are there any specific techniques that have really made an improvement in your conversation skills over the years?

Yes. It’s called “Hit the Fast Forward Button”

For me, my biggest frustration was always the first few minutes of a conversation. It always felt awkward and “forced.” And I would constantly find myself wondering “does she even want to be talking to me?”

And because of this, I tended to stay on “safe” and “boring” topics. And ultimately most of my conversations would die out really quickly.

This even happened with girls I knew already.

For instance, I would be out at a bar and see a girl from one of my classes, and SHE WOULD APPROACH ME… yet, I still couldn’t advance the conversation beyond “how have you been? So what have you been up to? Blah blah blah.”

I shudder just thinking about how many girls I lost because I let the conversation sputter out way too soon.

It finally got to the point where I HATED even talking to a girl… because I knew how boring it would be.

Well, one night I was out at a bar with a friend. The next morning I was booked to go sky diving and was literally shitting myself with visions of the parachute not opening…

Now, in the middle of this conversation two girls stand next to us and order drinks from the bar. And my friend starts a conversation with one of them.

With my mind preoccupied on skydiving I was in no mood to go through the motions of “get to know you” chit chat. So I simply said “I don’t mean to be rude… but I’m shitting a brick right now. Tomorrow morning I’m scheduled to jump out of plane from a couple thousand feet in the air… And I need you to convince me that the parachute is going to open…

Well, I thought the girls would find it rude that I just completely bypassed the “get to know you” stuff… but they seem relieved. They were completely engaged in talking about skydiving… and we went on to have a really fun, playful conversation.

And that is when I realized you can “hit the fast forward button.”

I went on to test this technique hundreds of times. Really early into a conversation I would just jump to a topic that is more conducive to building rapport and attraction. And what I found is that girls actually seemed happy to skip the small talk too.

5. How can a guy calm his nervousness while talking to a woman?

The quickest and most reliable way to calm nervousness is to develop an intention.

Fear, nervousness, and anxiety stem from not knowing what to do.

You see, once you know what your next move is you have no time to worry about it.

You just do it.

The problem is most guys have no clue what they are supposed to be doing. And even worse, they have no clue what the ultimate result is they are after.

When you start talking to a woman… what is your intention? Do you want to get her phone number? Do you want to get a date? Do you want to try to have sex with her that night?

Most guys don’t know.

And because of this you get into a conversation with a girl- and you’re continually looking for a reason to eject. In fact, when she says “I have to go to the bathroom” you’re probably happy because it takes all of the pressure off of you.

That’s because you weren’t committed to any real outcome.

I remember when I first graduated college. I was really unsure of what I wanted to do with my life. So I tried a lot of careers. And very soon into these different careers I would get really nervous about my future. I would start to think I was never going to make it. And at the first sign of an obstacle I would give up.

I got nervous and gave up easily because there was no intention behind what I was doing. I was not committed to making it in any of these careers.

Later, when I started TSB Magazine… I was just as broke, just as clueless… but I knew what I wanted. I wanted to create a magazine that would help millions of men. So I no longer worried about my future. I no longer worried when I came up against an obstacle. I just kept figuring out what I had to do next to get to the outcome I was after.

So once you figure out what outcome you want with a girl… just keep focused on what you need to do next? And don’t stop until you get that outcome.

Does that make sense?

6. Who would most benefit from: Conversation Escalation: Make Small Talk Sexy?

If you get hung up on what to say next… this course will definitely provide you with handful of tools that make sure you can keep a conversation flowing.

If you understand how attraction works… but need a “roadmap” to steer your way through a conversation, to keep it rolling, free of awkwardness or boredom, right to a natural and climatic ending- this course will act as that road map.

If you can’t seem to get the right mindset for flirting with women… this course provides “mind tricks” that keep your mind sharp to immediately spot a chance to inject humor and value into the conversation. And teaches you to become more “quick witted” and spontaneous.

Overall, this course is meant for the guy who knows that his ability to have a fun and flirtatious conversation with a woman is the only thing holding him back from having a phone full of numbers of women waiting for him to call…

7. Why did you decide to put out a course on “small talk?”

Simple.

Because it wasn’t until I mastered “small talk” that I began to have sort of consistent success with women.

And the funny thing is… almost no one tells you this. In fact, they tell you just the opposite, they say “avoid small talk”

Well, I went around for years avoiding small talk- and my conversations went nowhere.

I’m a naturally “introverted” guy. And the main reason that I struggled so long was because I didn’t understand the basic principles behind having an engaging conversation.

And a HUGE realization I had was that in order to “inject” all of these attraction building techniques into a conversation – YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A CONVERSAITON GOING.

Now, this course isn’t on “small talk” the way you are used to thinking about it. The course shows you how to take normal, mundane “small talk” and turn it into a “sexy” conversation.

8. What are the best topics to talk about with a woman?

Great question.

The number one fear that holds most men back from approaching a woman they are interested in is the fear of awkward silences and running out of things to say… And if you can inject your consciousness with a steady stream of topics… you’ll be much more “quick witted” and this fear will eventually disappear… and you’ll naturally find yourself talking to women wherever you are.

But not all topics are created equal.

And most will just bore her silly.

She doesn’t want to hear about your job. She doesn’t care about how long you’ve lived in your current city. And if one more guy asks her “Do you come hear often?” she will probably scream.

So what are some traits of topics that she DOES want to talk about. And more importantly… what are the traits of topics that will lead you to your desired outcome… ATTRACTION.

There are six main traits that good topics possess:

  1. A good topic should build rapport.
  2. A good topic should create an emotional state
  3. A good topic should make you three dimensional.
  4. A good topic provides hooks to keep a conversation going.
  5. A good topic allows you to display your attractive qualities.
  6. A good topic leads to sexuality

So based on the six criteria listed above I’ve uncovered 12 “almost magical” topics that will lead you towards your objective of creating attraction.

They KEY is to have a handful of topics so that you don’t run the risk of dwelling on anyone of them too long.

Now, I don’t have time to into all 12… but I’m going to give you a few.

One of the best topics of conversation with women is early years and childhood.

We very rarely get a chance to talk about it. When we do- it opens up a flood gate of emotions.

If something stands out vividly in your mind years after it happened it will probably be interesting to the person you’re talking to. For instance, I went to a nightmare of a sleep-a-way camp when I was young… and can still capture the attention of a room recounting the horrors of that experience.

You also want to ask her questions that will get her recounting her childhood experiences.

Not only does talking about our childhood bring out emotions many of us haven’t felt in awhile… it also is a refreshing change of pace from our current reality. Plus it lends itself to humor, a sense of rapport, and with some skill can easily be transitioned into something on a more sexual level.

Another great topic for conversation is Travel.

People love to talk about travel.

They key here is to let her talk. Don’t feel the need to jump in immediately and tell your stories or brag about where you’ve been. Instead use it as an opportunity to dig deeper into her interests, desires, and passions, and world views.

And have a couple your own “travel stories” ready. Instead of just giving a laundry list of places you’ve been to… have one or two memorable stories from one of your recent adventures. (The more exotic the location the better)

Travel is an attraction trigger. Women are naturally attracted to men who travel a lot. It makes them seem worldly and slightly out of reach.

Once you know what sort of topics make for best conversations with women… it is time to start introducing them into your conversations.

The best way to do this is through a technique I call “rooting.”

“Rooting” means you say something that plants the seed of what you are about to say next.”

For instance, if you want to begin talking about “early childhood memories” you could say something like:

“You totally have this way about you that reminds me of my third grade teacher Mrs. Robbins. Haha… I remember one time in that class…”

See how you easily began talking about “early childhood memories” by simply rooting it by telling her she reminds you of your third grade teacher.

9. What is something guys will be surprised to learn in Conversation Escalation: Make Small Talk Sexy?

I think that guys are going to be surprised to learn how many techniques and tools are available to make a conversation more interesting and engaging- and I think they are going to kick themselves of for not using them sooner.

For me, the biggest surprise as I began to uncover a lot of these tools was how simple they are too implement.

For instance, in this program we are going to show you how to “steer” a conversation along. How to spot the “hooks” a woman is giving you. You’ll learn how to “bait” a woman into asking you about things you want to be talking about.

You’re also going to learn how inject “sexuality” into a conversation. Because ultimately- you can have an hour long amazing conversation with a woman- but if you don’t get her thinking about you in a “sexual” way- it will be impossible to ever kiss her.

Now there are a ton of techniques you’re going to learn that almost force you to become a more attractive talker… but more important than the techniques, I’m going to teach you a “specific” practice routine- so that this new way of communicating comes natural to you- and you remember to use the information when it counts- when you’re talking to a woman.

If you want to see a sample of some of things you’re going to learn read though Conversation Escalation: Make Small Talk Sexy.

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