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So what is Love Systems and why did I feel compelled to include them on my pages?
In their words,
“Love Systems is a proven, comprehensive method that allows any man to meet and form relationships with the highest caliber of women.”
I’ve included them on my site because I wanted to give you guys a wider view of attraction and picking up women. You will rarely hear me talk about how to pick up women, or routines on my site, but it does not mean it is not a part of attraction, or a nice guy wanting to get the women he feels he deserves.
They are about teaching men, from start to finish, how to pick up women. Which is why they are called pick up artists. And they are the best at doing it. For some it is their way of life. I’ve even heard one mention that he actually considers himself a comedian, even though he doesn’t go on stage and perform. But he does do sets. He does do openings, tells stories, and brings humor with him.
Would I consider what they do cheap tactics or just about using pick up lines?
NEVER!
What they teach is social interaction, how to be considered attractive by all women, confidence, overcoming approach anxiety, and working through your limited beliefs.
So if you’re a nice guy who is interested in not escaping the friend’s zone, which can be futile, but is more interested in not going there in the first place, I suggest you check out their material.
If you’re logically minded, meaning you like to understand fully how things really work, read this. It is sort of a basis for what Love Systems teach:
The M3 Model – The Easiest Way To Pick-up
The attraction phase is divided into :
A1 – Approach
A2 – Attracting the HB or Female-to-male Interest
A3 – Male-to-Female InterestThe comfort phase is divided into :
C1 – Building rapport
C2 – Building emotional connection and physical connection
C3 – IntimacyThe seduction phase is divided into :
S1 – Foreplay
S2 – LMR
S3 – Sex
That model helped me so much when I first read it because it not only showed there was a formula, although not hard-coded and con be considered very fluid, but it has allowed me to see exactly what I had been doing wrong for so many years.
As a nice guy I found myself constantly in C2 before A1 A2 or A3. Which guaranteed me good friends, but there was no attraction. Hence, the dreaded friends zone with most women. Now there is no definite order to proceed through those steps, it does depend so much on the context of the situation, but it does show us that if you’re missing parts or jumping haphazardly all over the process, chances are you are not succeeding with women. It’s just that simple.
But let’s move on and check out some of their materials they offer…
The Interview Series
I can not believe I just spent the last few hours listening to excerpts from the Interview Series at Love Systems. But once I started I found it hard to stop. Click on one of the many volumes offered at Love Systems for a free 10 minute preview. I included some excerpts in text to give you an idea.
Approaching and Transitioning Volume 1
“Body Language and Tonality…the opener is the most important part…don’t violate personal space…approach at an angle…mixed sets are actually easier…never open the target directly…”
Introduction to Attraction Volume 2
“Beautiful women around the world seem to be attracted to the same things……Social Interaction…Humor….Status…. Attraction happens pretty quickly…you can change the way you look…”
“Emotional stimulation…sensory details…what did you feel..what did you touch…what did you see..leave out stuff that doesn’t put you in a good light…build a story…present don’t represent…end three different ways…”
Timebridging and Dates Volume 4
“the difference between attraction and comfort…generates something that connects you two…win over her friends…you challenge is…having a plan for day 2…dinner is the worst idea…something interesting you were going to do anyway”"
Frame Control and Subcommunications Volume 5
“The frame is the context of the interaction…a strong enough frame will always win…and if you fail those tests…frame of you now have to explain yourself…confidence is a huge part”
“…it allows you to display value…you’re going to need a world she wants to be a part of…align with people with strong identity…who you are what you do…what are your ambitions…ambition is the same of money…way you carry yourself… the stories you tell”
Dealing with Men and Obstacles Volume 7
“Mixed sets are a fact of life…if you are in this game to attract…you’re going to find mixed sets…be the social guy…they are going to know I’m gaming…”
“indicating interest…compliance and investment…testing to see how attractive she is… segue into comfort…A3 into C1…they don’t see where they really are…reward her by indicating interest…cognitive models…see how much she likes in…”
Using and Creating Routines Volume 9
“Always have something interesting to say…everybody has stories…we’re not talking about memorizing word for word…fundamental building block of meeting someone…demonstrate to the girl”
“…it’s all about setting up a date…when to call…callback humor…not a long drawn out thing…”
Physical Escalation and Kissing Volume 11
“As soon as possible…you literally have to touch within the first thirty seconds…touch early and continue early…become a touchy guy…learn it…don’t fell like you’re being creepy…screening tool…how do you find a girl that’s gonna want a one night stand”
“how do you get to the living room…get her into C3…you want her to feel…seduction is very much about pacing and leading…a woman will give you a lot of feedback…you don’t want to go into lust…the more sexual tension you can building…anticipation…makes everything work a lot better…set the scene..slowly build to seduction…don’t want to have to be aggressive”
“Warm approach is social context…not context like a bus stop or a bar…don’t have to go to…opener…different ways to start a conversation…warm approach is just a little but easier…keep your energy up…you don’t have that same type of problem…you don’t have to qualify yourself…is he hitting on me…a context where it’s very normal to talk to someone”
The First Five Minutes Volume 14
“that is really where your first impression takes place…attraction is usually generated in the first five minutes…how it goes…do it by the numbers…really have your goals in mind…before you get into the set…scope out the venue…access points…how loud it is…direct or indirect”
“he’s very outrageous…does not take enough take chances…does not go for getting a woman’s phone number…we programmed to believe…to move interactions forward…”
“…get the girl attracted cultivated from media…be interested and be somebody different…somebody with value…sexual amped about a million things but not necessarily act on it…this is the guy that is going to get the girl..he see the flashy attraction there is not the guy hooking…the guy sitting back…a slow process..where there’s no making out in the bar…preselected my women…leader of men…somebody who willing to stand up…”
The Right Way to Learn Game Volume 17
“…one night stand… relationships…won’t be happy with your results if you don’t know where you’re going…guy that trying to just get the girlfriend…having just game won’t make you happy…life…an opener that you use is going to have a theme…how it works and why it works”
“special area…the area of threesomes…mystery method and bad boy…who knows each other first..meet two women that already that know each other…meet one women and then introducing them to each other…develop a sexual relationship with one woman..then develop…share another woman with you…I’m doing this for us”
Friends With Benefits Volume 19
“Love Systems relationship model…friends with benefits comes at the bottom of the list…steer the model…screening her sexually…the hottest three months of your life…social circle setting often a question where you want…hey I’ll give you a ride home…waterfall effect…known I’ve slept with the hottest girl there…that wouldn’t be accepted in which social circle…one of the frames I try to set is discretion”"
“people will gravitate to people that are similar…if you don’t have a lot of beautiful women ion your life…use that as an opportunity to meet her friends…three or four good friends…keep them around in your life…no expectation…be okay with them…don’t hit on them…they are your bait…invite their friends to your house…outer circle”
“for the purpose of meeting women…you don’t all approach…somebody in there first…controlling the interaction…the other friends may also be trying to get the girl…first do no harm…choose the target…your wing is the coolest guy…you act happy…you introduce him…think about the other perspective…does a woman ever look at her friend… she’s excited to be with her friend…you have to be the cool guy”
“don’t give up…very few interactions that go perfectly….don’t think you have to do everything perfect to get the girl…it’s your own reaction to the screw up…if you act like it’s a big deal, then it is…women will take that cue…recovering when an opening is stalling…drawing attention to it and just laughing about it…”
“it stimulates a conversation…they will give you information and then use that…guessing who they are instead of asking who they are…make a statement about what she is…even if you’re wrong they will offer information…apply to just about anyone…ideal cold read to use is making an observation about a body part…grab a woman’s palm”
“ideally build jealousy before you meet them…later it more likely to backfire…after the first five minutes…don’t be risky…when you’re ot good at hiding your own jealousy…she will try them back on you…you can’t be jealous yourself…the more you don’t react the more she will…if you react you’re done…visually…verbally…physically(best one)…she hears it from another source…”
How to be an Alpha Male Volume 25
“Their reality comes from within…I think they give a vibe that they are leader of men..social people…aren’t afraid of being sexual…frame of reference is inside…not waiting for social cues…they are very authentic…a place of genuineness…external events…I did not attach external event to who I am…becasue you slept with three Chics this weekends is not your identity…strong self worth….approval or disapproval does not affect him…his integrity…your opinion of him…beta guy tries to chase her up and down her emotions, an alpha guy does not”
“a guy who is confident to go up to a woman and say ‘Hey…you’re fucking sexy’…come from a frame of power…I’m choosing you…me choosing her…i like the way she looks…you like nice but still it’s not enough so who the fuck are you?”
“One floor missing you’re not going to have access to the next floors…do the thing of fear…first jump as scary as shit…by the fifth jump the fear is 40…so powerful…time constraint…jumping around from one opener to the next…he knows it’s not the words…changing the script on actor right before the scene you’re asking for bad…attraction…body language…how fast you talk”
I’m going to cut off the quotes from Love Systems incredible Interview Series there. I’ll refresh this page soon and maybe I will finish it off.
Logistics – Taking Her Home Volume 33
Love Systems in Everyday Life Volume 36
Issues in Qualification Volume 37
Older Men Dating Younger Volume 39
Turning Things Sexual Volume 40
Takeaways and Boundaries Volume 42
Overcoming Approach Anxiety Volume 44
Introduction to Comfort Volume 45
Last Minute Resistance Volume 46
No More Mister Nice Guy Volume 47
Being “the nice guy” is an issue that keeps many men from finding success with women. Falling into “the nice guy” role can lead the woman you desire to take serious advantage of you, lose sexual attraction for you and express the dreaded words “let’s just be friends,” or lose all respect for you and cut off all ties. However, avoiding the label of “the nice guy” does not mean one needs to become an unlikable jerk in order to attract and keep women in your life. In this interview, 5.0 and Sheriff reveal ways to excel with women while keeping your core ideals and beliefs of politeness and manners intact.
Here are some great things you’ll learn from this interview:
- The difference between being “A nice guy” and “THE nice guy”
- What is unattractive about being too nice
- What is appealing about “bad boys”
- How to effectively employ emotional spikes
- How to take control and create boundaries while still remaining nice
- How to stop being “the nice guy” in a relationship
- Exercises to transform yourself out of “the nice guy” mold
What does Love System offer?
Magic Bullets(click on the picture below to learn more about what Love Systems can bring to your life)
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“And I can tell you something. No one. AND I MEAN NO ONE, has put out a more refined, detailed and complete book – one that covers meeting and attracting women from starting an initial conversation all the way to relationships – than Magic Bullets. And I highly doubt anyone ever will!”
“Learn the deep knowledge that puts you in the driver’s seat as I take you through the evolutionary factors that came together to make women the way they are! That’s right, women DO NOT think the same as men. And women are, for the most part, very, very similar in their behavior and what they find attractive.” |
Routines Manual 1 and 2(Click on one of the pictures below to read what Love Systems can give to you)
“But what’s the secret to mastering the art of making conversation with attractive women? After getting into this subject and passing a lot of ideas and theories back and forth for a while, The Don and I came to a conclusion. The single most important thing a guy needs to have, to consistently flow with conversation in any situation with beautiful women, is a ready-to-go arsenal of conversation openers, great stories, routines and games.”
So you can always know what to say…
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Relationship Management 3 DVD Set
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But how do you learn Relationship Management? |
As you might have guessed it by now I’m not very good at writing reviews. In fact I hate or despise having to do it. So I’m not going to do it here. Check out the products on your own. I’m sure they are better at explaining what they offer than I am.
I will say this though:
If you have no idea of how the pick up goes…
If you’re clueless about what attraction is really all about…
If you are serious about gaining the correct skills in social interactions…
Then it would be a wise investment in any of the Love Systems programs.
My personal opinion is that nothing they will offer work for any man that is not willing to get off his ass and do the work. Just like everyone else I recommend on my site these skills requires practice, a willingness to learn, and a want to invest in your own personal life.
Is it worth it?
Of course it is! I can tell you from experience that getting your social life under your control, learning what women are really all about, and how their attraction works, takes a major load off the stress you have in your life.
Learning what they teach, even if you’re only going to use your new skills to develop great sexual relationships with women or to find a girlfriend frees your mind up to, in essence, allow yourself to “just be that cool guy“.
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