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Online Dating and The Nice Guy.

by on October 22, 2010

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“You can use online social sites to practice staying out of the friends zone.”

I have seen it so many times before.  The good guy struggling to meet people outside of his job. He doesn’t like to go to clubs and bars are absolutely out of the question. He struggles with a cold approach at a supermarket or his local coffee shop has the ambiance of a high school cafeteria.

So what does this nice guy do?

He figures, I’ll go online then.

I will get to pick and choose from tons of single women that will get to know my personality first and judge me less on how I look.

Great idea right?

The problem with that is if you are a nice guy who does not seem to understand women very well, and for some reason the friend’s zone is your home away from home (and I’m not talking about a sunny villa on some tropical island either)…

You end up making the same mistakes online.

Although the online experience can be a little different from the real world, if you don’t really understand how to make a woman feel attraction for you face to face it is not going to be different in “cyberland” either.  Sooner or later you’re going to have to meet her.

If you feel online dating is your only choice and you are so determined to stick to it then you should keep reading and I will give you some proven advice that will at least make things easier for you.

Women that are on strict dating sites, (this does not include social sites)  are there for a reason. To date. She probably will expect you to take her out, wine and dine her, and prove to her that you are worth seeing again. If this is not you then I would suggest you find a good medium-sized social site and use it to perfect your interactions with women you find attractive.

Use it as a learning tool and don’t be afraid to burn those bridges in your interactions. Make sure it is inexpensive, has lots of pictures, simple emailing, private emailing, not restricted, not too flashy, and has a system in place that gives you some sort of assurance that the women you are dealing with are actually real people. Try Bangme. It’s not what it sounds like.

You can click here to join for free. Unless you are in a big city finding someone down the street will be tough but practicing and watching what other men say is a valuable learning tool. I’ve used it for years and have met some incredible women, a few girlfriend, and lots of friends which just happen to be hot sexual women.

Women still are hounded constantly by the not so nice guys. The perverts, the creeps, the leering individuals with no intention of being no more than a pain in the ass. For some reason they harbor deep-rooted mental issues with the ladies and find the Internet to be a great place to get back at them. I can’t tell you how many times I have talked to women and they tell me stories of the freaks that write them and what they say to them.

I can’t tell you how many times I have lost contact with some great women, or had to move our contact to somewhere else because those men drove them out.

For every email you send in hopes in a response she is probably receiving ten times as much and she will have to disqualify many of them quickly. The simplest way for her to do this is  to look at your picture and decide, read your headline, or look at your profile before even before reading your mail, and scan the first few sentences.

If one of those is not congruent or catchy in her eyes. You’re done.

Now the odds are really starting to stack up. When I started to study online dating and look deeply into what was really going on. I was dumb founded by the numbers and one scenario kept running through my brain.

I imagined walking into any place well-known for hooking up with someone or meeting a potential partner. I walk in confidently and my eyes gaze to scan for attractive women but for every fifty guys leering about the one poor girl nervously shaking in the corner.

I realize there are plenty of bars and clubs that the men outnumber the women but they can not possibly be that extreme. Yet through online dating it can be like that. And with the strike against you of not being able to use your body language or voice inflections to convey your confidence and masculinity, it can seem like an impossible feat.

But people do hook up online.

Some actually do get married.

Some find life long partners or friends and have wonderful experiences online.

If you are nice guy and struggle with getting women to respond to you online, or have trouble taking the interaction to an actual date, those numbers above must first be fully realized and accepted in order for you to achieve your goals. Below are some tips to get you started.

1. Know your competition.

Check out other men’s profiles. Particularly the successful ones. This is why I like online social dating sites because I can see what men are saying tho the women and how those same ladies respond. Learn from them of what to do and what not to do. For example if you scan ten men’s profiles and 7 of them start with. “Hey! My name is John Doe. I am looking ….”  Then make sure you don’t do the same.

2. Learn how to take a photograph of yourself that shows strength and confidence.

Look at all aspects of where it was taken, how you are standing, your smile, and even how that same photograph will look shrunk down to a thumbnail size.

3. Grammar is an invaluable tool.

You don’t have to be all business like but your writing is very important. First she looks at your picture, then she may even check out your profile before even reading you mail. So everything must work together. If you struggle with writing eloquently again start with other people’s profiles that seem to be popular.

Don’t over sell yourself with your writings yet don’t undermine yourself with negativity either. Don’t just blatantly give away your whole life story. She should want to learn more about you. If you tell her everything there is about you it leaves no room for mystery at all. Learn how spell or use a spell checker to check all the unnecessary typos and proof read your writing. It only takes a few extra minutes but it is by far worth your time.

4.Don’t waste your time writing to women you are not actually interested in just because you think she is hot…

Unless your goal is to practice talking to attractive women. I’ll post more later on specifics on using free or inexpensive social sites to practice. Social sites can give you valuable experience and are great testing areas to work on your skills.

5. Don’t waste your time writing a book to any one woman for the first email.

Don’t get all mushy and bent on any one individual. You need to increase your options if you want to succeed.  The more you are corresponding the less time you will have for any one women. Which means you might not be able to get back to her for a while. Which can be a good thing unless you are strictly online for setting up many dates quickly to fill your personal life up more. In that case….

6. Move quickly and don’t waste your time talking to someone for months and months before meeting them.

A couple of emails back and forth, get their phone number, call them, and then decide where you can meet. Preferable in a very public setting where both of you can feel very comfortable about meeting someone you have never met in person. This is another reason getting them on the phone is very important.

Create rapport with her. Talk casually first and again don’t waste your time. I say act quickly here because any potential date that is worth your time will be bombarded with requests for dates. This can send her decision-making process into overload and there is a good chance your great personality will get lost in the shuffle.

7. Get professional help and spend your money wisely.

Don’t settle with a long time commitment and do your homework first. The site I have cited here is invaluable for weeding out the bullshit sites. It may be tough to navigate at first but use the search process within the site to gather information about any particular site. Look for things like how easy is it to opt out and get your profile erased.

Look for guarantees or money back if you are not satisfied. Just take the time to study and learn about the top sites and find one that works for you best. Go there and search for singles in your area before you ever hand over your credit card to them. Most won’t require you to sign up first and it is important you have local people there that you may be interested in.

Let’s break down the money aspect of it. Let’s say you are willing to spend $20.00 to $40.00 a month to be a subscribed member for a three month period. That’s $60 to $120 so we will split the difference to $90. This does not include the cost of going out on dates. So even at modest three dates a month for three months at $30 to $100 a date. Splitting the cost again to $65 a date brings us to $195 a month, or $585 in three months plus the $90 for the dating service which brings us to a total of $685.

This is why you should make sure you money works for you and not just is spent using a service that does not teach you anything. Since you can’t guarantee any outcome in that situation lets look at this way.

Imagine for a minute that you’re 18 years old and never driven before because you are scared shitless of the road. So for the time being you spend tons of money being driven around by buses and taxis. Knowing in the back of your head that you will spend the rest of your life with that added payment because of your fear to drive. This fear is very overwhelming and your inner strength doesn’t seem to be enough to get you through it.

There is a good chance unless you pay a psychologist or an expert on driving fears the few hundred dollars to overcome this fear you will spend thousands and thousands your entire life paying someone to do something you can learn how to do yourself.

It’s the same with online dating. Spending a little extra to learn how to attract women or get dates online will reward you for as long as you are single.

I am suggesting you should spend up to the difference of $90 and invest in learning all you can about meeting women online first. Join a free social sites and practice what your chosen program teaches and then when you are ready, join a paid site.

At least this way you will almost guarantee yourself the best opportunity to achieve your dating goals. And the great part about learning is that teachers usually do offer a guarantee to their products that go beyond the simple, if you don’t get dates. They offer guarantees in changing who you are or utilizing your best assets as a nice guy to have online dating success after success with limited failures beyond your choice of, “I’m sorry. I just don’t think you are for me“.

David Wygant has the best cost-effective product I’ve seen so far. Check it out and see for yourself by Clicking Here. He reveals tons of Online Dating Secrets and a great guarantee that goes for ninety days.

Scot McKay has Online Dating Domination. You can find it by clicking here. You should read more into it.

Both are great programs and should keep you around the difference limit of your money I suggested above. Here is a list of all the online social sites available and a little info on each one from Wikipedia., just click here.

Whichever one you choose I’m positive you will like the results. If I had to choose one right now, sorry Dave but Scot’s Online Domination seems to fit my needs better. Here are the links again, Online Dating Domination, or Online Dating Secrets.

Below you will find 26 free articles to help you get started:

 

  1. Guys – Are You Frustrated with Your Online Dating Experience? No Messages from Women? Part One of my Newest series in Online Dating
  2. How To Write A Headline That Gets Women Interested In ReadingYour Profile - Part Two
  3. How To Write A Perfect Online Profile Women Will Want to Read - Part Three
  4. Writing Messages to Women to Get Responses On Many Online Dating Sites - Part Four
  5. How My Short Internet Story Can Change Your Dating Life Online – Plus A Lesson in Flirting - Part Five
  6. Review My Top Recommendation If You Want Success Dating Women Online - Part Six
  7. Online Dating Tips – Derek Lamont – The Online Game – Internet Attraction System Review a top dating program for men.
  8. This Face Profile Picture Will Get You Laid. Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  9. Three Profile Mistake Which Scare Women Away Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  10. The Last Thing A Girl Wants A Man To Talk About Online Is Sex Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  11. EASILY Grab Her Number On Any Instant Messaging Program Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  12. Send Her This Instant Message That Will Build Her Sexual Attraction Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  13. 3 Critical Mistakes Men Make When Talking To Women Online Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  14. Facebook Pickup. Can You Use Your Computer As a Seduction Machine? Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  15. 4 Reasons Why Women Flake Out While You Try To Pick Them Up Online Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  16. The MySpace Pickup Line That Gets a Response From Women Quickly Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  17. Can You Use The Infamous ‘Poke’ Button On Facebook To Pickup Chicks? Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  18. The Twitter Tactic That Got Me LAID! Derek Lamont post at Attraction Transformation
  19.  4 Step Guide to Meeting Women – How to Use Facebook to Meet Women - Great and rare post from Carlos Xuma at Attraction Transformation
  20. It’s Not About Sex. My two cents on a five dollar charge: T.R.M.  – My review of Bangme. A social picture site I’ve personally used to meet many women.
  21. Free Dating Sites vs. Paid Dating Sites Elena Solomon  from 12 Simple Rules located at Attraction Transformation.
  22. How To Ruin Your Online Dating Success Elena Solomon  from 12 Simple Rules located at Attraction Transformation.
  23. How to create a great online dating profile.
  24. Profile Liars – Become Her Real Fantasy Don’t Give Her Your Fantasy Self - Guest Post from David Wygant located here.
  25. Online Traffic – Don’t Get Lost With Internet Dating – Challenge Her - Guest Post from David Wygant located here.
  26. Online Dating Secret REVEALED – Guest Post – David Wygant - Another guest post from David Wygant.
  27. Online Dating Advice: Exactly What to Say In A First Message - Great pure facts about your messages.
  28. Top 10 Mistakes in Online Dating Profiles - Basic advice but certainly some useful advice.
  29. Men’s 8 Most irritating Online Behaviors - Great post from David Wygant.

Awesome Online Dating Statistics which you may want to check out:

Online-Dating-Industry-Facts-Statistics

Online Dating Sites:

  • Bangme It’s not just about Sex
  • Chemistry.comBefore you meet your match, get to know yourself.
  • Easyflirt First dating website with webcam chat.
  • FriendfinderFriendfinder.
  • HurryDate – Cut to the Chase  Go on real live dates in one fun night! Mark your SCOREcard if you want to see each person again and they’ll match you up! Parties in bars and lounges almost every week.
  • Lavalife  Meet millions of singles online at Lavalife.
  • Match Affinity  Match Affinity.
  • Metrodate  The Ultimate Singles Resource featuring online personals with photos, voice, chat and more!
    • Perfect Match The Best Approach to Finding the Right Person for You.
  • Spark Networks   Free Registration at Spark Network for American Singles.

 



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